7 – Misinformation and Disinformation in Elections – What’s Okay?

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 21537, member: 480″]I had a family member tell me outright just the other night that PPC were NAZI’s and that they heard it all the time on the radio for the last 6 months. They never looked up PPC or anything though. Total naivety and ignorance.[/QUOTE]

    The average Canadian agrees with the platform of the PPC. They have to smear them because that’s all they have to go on. It will always happen, you can’t expect your enemies to play nice.

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    Well technically in some place the PPC platform is a little left of what the average Canadian agrees with, or simply doesn’t address the issue. The two things with that would be immigration, with the average Canadian being a little more “extreme” than the PPC and abortion where the average Canadian agrees with 1st trimester but not 2nd or 3rd. Also forgot about execution or capital punishment, which isn’t on the platform either, there might be others. Though I do understand the idea of not having something on a platform.

    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 21542, member: 480″]If there is nothing but lies during elections than they are pointless[/QUOTE]

    There are reasons why I’m a monarchist. We could do everything democratically, but it would require a change. The executive would have to be direct democracy, so we would vote directly on each issue instead of electing people who do that. I find it odd that the larger issues get a better result with mob rule while smaller ones get a better result with representatives. People running a town would have terrible results were it done directly, which has actually been the case, yet for large issues it’s not done. Still not ideal and it’s super slow, but if we are talking about being close to the mark and actually getting it done then it’s better. Still I’m a monarchist, because that’s even better.

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 21537, member: 480″]Just proves that Canada is nothing more than a massive Corporation, our politicians HAVE NO LOYALTY, to [I]us, [/I]or any flags we fly.[/QUOTE]
    [MEDIA=youtube]5ibuM4T6AGQ[/MEDIA]

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 21550, member: 480″]I will watch it, but I don’t feel I’m a wreck – I feel like my “home” this nation and our “strongest Ally” to the south, is a wreck. The second reason I haven’t killed myself yet is because I feel like that’s what society wants me to do….

    The edges of a knife cut both ways, even though someone telling me not to do something hardens my resolve, so does telling me [I]to do[/I] something.[/QUOTE]
    Why do you need to register & pay for your own “Birth Certificate”? How does it differ from a “Certificate of Live Birth”? When you were born, a legalistic fiction was established in your name. You unknowingly consented to be the financial guarantor of your Birth Certificate (or “Manifest”) as collateral against loans issued by private international banks to the Government, at compounded interest. The financial Trust the Government holds in your name, via your Birth Certificate, makes you collateral & liable to be the guarantor of the Government’s loan repayments to private banks. Your natural worth & value in the cosmos, as a fellow child of the Most High Creator, has been hidden from you by manufactured consent into International Maritime Admiralty Law (Roman or Cannon Law). Citations
    [MEDIA=youtube]5ibuM4T6AGQ[/MEDIA]

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    [QUOTE=”Classical Conservative, post: 21548, member: 189″]There are reasons why I’m a monarchist. We could do everything democratically, but it would require a change. The executive would have to be direct democracy, so we would vote directly on each issue instead of electing people who do that[/QUOTE]
    funny i stumbled on this video yesterday i was going to message you this info
    [SIZE=7][B]Who Would be Jacobite King of the UK Today?[/B][/SIZE]

    [URL]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1835/6621/files/jacobites_5a201643-1415-4cf4-8e22-28487da826e7.png?143[/URL]

    [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Adam_II,_Prince_of_Liechtenstein[/URL]

    He makes the case for democracy as the best form of government, which he sees China and Russia as in transition towards although the path will be difficult for these nations. He also declared his role in a princely family as something that has legitimacy only from the assent of the people. He stated that government should be limited to a small set of tasks and abilities, writing that people “have to free the state from all the unnecessary tasks and burdens with which it has been loaded during the last hundred years, which have distracted it from its two main tasks: maintenance of the rule of law and foreign policy

    In an interview, recorded in November 2010, Hans-Adam said that he saw certain problems with aspects of the US Constitution, such as the lack of direct democracy.

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    [QUOTE=”joe muferaw, post: 21568, member: 374″]with mass immigration im sure none british , irish or scottish peoples would not care or fight for a new king[/QUOTE]
    You know what would be very interesting. Who would the millennials fight for if they would fight at all. Just for instance. Supposes there was a global conflict and Canada was called upon like it was during WW 1 & WW 2. What do you think would happen?

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    Q>did you see that RT article
    A> RT is state run you cant trust it

    Q>did you see that CBC article
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    :whistle::coffee:

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 21558, member: 480″]Who should be King?[/QUOTE]

    I’m a monarchist as I recognize it as the best form of government. There isn’t a specific individual that I could endorse without sounding self serving. I’m sure there are a few out there that would be good, however it’s a different system. Generally people who ask that think it would be decided democratically, that’s not how it’s done. That’s a democratic means of instituting something non democratic, which isn’t how it goes.

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    [USER=374]@joe muferaw[/USER] Liechtenstein is almost ideal as far as governments go. I would say the King there, or Prince as the title is, needs more executive power. There is also some democracy. Mixed isn’t bad but the only reason to have democracy is to repress social unrest. That’s the only thing it does better than other forms.

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    [QUOTE=”joe muferaw, post: 21568, member: 374″]with mass immigration im sure none british , irish or scottish peoples would not care or fight for a new king[/QUOTE]

    The Queen could probably regain her power easily, all she would have to do is actually stand up for the common good of her people. She doesn’t have any institutional power but she could probably regain it if she did that. She doesn’t though.

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    [QUOTE=”AV8TOR, post: 21575, member: 33″]You know what would be very interesting. Who would the millennials fight for if they would fight at all. Just for instance. Supposes there was a global conflict and Canada was called upon like it was during WW 1 & WW 2. What do you think would happen?[/QUOTE]
    suppose it would depend on the global conflict and who believes in what the media tells them
    look at the middle east today and yesturyear after 9/11

    the leaders have lost control of the narrative which is why they are shutting down the internet and censoring as much as humanly possible
    there propaganda is no longer as effective
    besides they are operating from the shadows now though the education system and placing the most brainwashed into positions of power to bring about what they want anyway

    i for one wont fight in any bankers wars nor go into any other country

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    [QUOTE=”joe muferaw, post: 21584, member: 374″]Q>did you see that RT article
    A> RT is state run you cant trust it

    Q>did you see that CBC article
    A>
    :whistle::coffee:[/QUOTE]

    I would say that with a state run media doesn’t mean it’s untrustworthy anymore than a private. It just has different motivations. It needs to be done correctly though. I don’t know how RT is done myself. The idea that Maxime had for dealing with the CBC is one of the ways. Not my preferred way, but it’s one way.

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 21589, member: 480″]Who should be king then?[/QUOTE]

    Didn’t you read what I posted? I can’t advocate any specific individual at this time for various reasons.

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    [QUOTE=”AV8TOR, post: 21575, member: 33″]You know what would be very interesting. Who would the millennials fight for if they would fight at all. Just for instance. Supposes there was a global conflict and Canada was called upon like it was during WW 1 & WW 2. What do you think would happen?[/QUOTE]

    If there was a conflict on that scale then Canada would contribute less than what we did during those times, even though we should be able to contribute more. Also our troops would be less effective than they were then, despite newer technology, especially any units that have women or trannies. If it was other places that worship diversity over effectiveness then our side would lose.

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 21597, member: 480″]For sure I couldn’t either. In the case of Monarchies it’s usually the most ambitious who win, regardless of who are in their way.[/QUOTE]

    Not really how it starts. Though that has something to do with it. There are issues, most of which can be removed with proper succession laws as opposed to primogeniture, though even primogeniture under monarchy is better than the appeal to popularity for head of government that we have today.

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    [QUOTE=”Classical Conservative, post: 21588, member: 189″][USER=374]@joe muferaw[/USER] Liechtenstein is almost ideal as far as governments go. I would say the King there, or Prince as the title is, needs more executive power. There is also some democracy. Mixed isn’t bad but the only reason to have democracy is to repress social unrest. That’s the only thing it does better than other forms.[/QUOTE]
    Prince Hans-Adam owns [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/LGT_Bank’]LGT[/URL] banking group and has a family fortune of $7.6 billion and a personal fortune of about $4.0 billion,[URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Hans-Adam_II,_Prince_of_Liechtenstein#cite_note-6′][6][/URL] making him one of the world’s richest heads of state, and Europe’s wealthiest monarch.[URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Hans-Adam_II,_Prince_of_Liechtenstein#cite_note-7′][7][/URL] He owns an extensive art collection, much of which is displayed for the public at the [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Liechtenstein_Museum’]Liechtenstein Museum[/URL] in Vienna.
    [URL]https://infogalactic.com/info/LGT_Group[/URL]

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    I didn’t know about that. Did you know they only recently gave women the vote in that country in the 80’s. That was interesting I think.

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    [B]LGT Group[/B] is the [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Private_banking’]private banking[/URL] and [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Asset_management’]asset management[/URL] group of the [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Princely_Family_of_Liechtenstein’]princely House of Liechtenstein[/URL]. LGT, originally known as The Liechtenstein Global Trust, is the largest family-owned private wealth and asset manager in Europe, wholly owned by the [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Prince_of_Liechtenstein_Foundation’]Prince of Liechtenstein Foundation[/URL].

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    [QUOTE=”AV8TOR, post: 21575, member: 33″]You know what would be very interesting. Who would the millennials fight for if they would fight at all. Just for instance. Supposes there was a global conflict and Canada was called upon like it was during WW 1 & WW 2. What do you think would happen?[/QUOTE]
    If they can come up from their parents’ basement they’ll find they don’t need to fight because the govt can’t afford to pay an army.

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    Through his mother Sophie, born a Princess of Bavaria and thus a member of the [URL=’http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Wittelsbach’]House of Wittelsbach[/URL], Prince Wenzel is third in line and the heir of his mother to the [URL=’http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobite_succession’]Jacobite succession to the British throne[/URL]. The Jacobites sought to restore the British crown to [URL=’http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_II_of_England’]King James II of England[/URL] following his deposition in the [URL=’http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution’]Glorious Revolution of 1688[/URL] and subsequently, to his heirs. The current Jacobite heir is Sophie’s childless uncle [URL=’http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz,_Duke_of_Bavaria’]Franz, Duke of Bavaria[/URL], who has never pursued the claim. Franz’s heir is Sophie’s father, Maximilian, Duke in Bavaria who only has five daughters. As the eldest of her father’s daughters, Sophie will be his heir to the Jacobite claim and therefore her eldest son is her heir.

    [URL]http://www.unofficialroyalty.com/prince-joseph-wenzel-of-liechtenstein/[/URL]

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    [QUOTE=”Classical Conservative, post: 21606, member: 189″]I didn’t know about that. Did you know they only recently gave women the vote in that country in the 80’s. That was interesting I think.[/QUOTE]
    Where? (I’m trying to follow but am having difficulty lol)

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    [URL]https://infogalactic.com/info/House_of_Wittelsbach[/URL]
    kinda confusing how they say Sophie, born a Princess of Bavaria and Prince Wenzel is third in line
    [URL]https://infogalactic.com/info/Jacobite_succession[/URL]
    seems to me it would go with this guys family and one of his many children
    [URL]https://infogalactic.com/info/Albrecht,_Duke_of_Bavaria[/URL]

    found this part interesting
    [URL]https://infogalactic.com/info/Franz,_Duke_of_Bavaria[/URL]
    The Wittelsbach dynasty were opposed to the [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Nazism’]Nazi[/URL] regime in Germany, and in 1939, Franz’s father Albrecht took his family to [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Hungary’]Hungary[/URL]. They lived in [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Budapest’]Budapest[/URL] for four years before moving to their Castle at [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/S%C3%A1rv%C3%A1r’]Sárvár[/URL] in late 1943. In March 1944, [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Nazi_Germany’]Nazi Germany[/URL] occupied Hungary, and on 6 October 1944 the entire family, including the 11-year-old Franz, were arrested. They were sent to a series of [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Nazi_concentration_camps’]Nazi concentration camps[/URL], including [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Oranienburg’]Oranienburg[/URL] and [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Dachau_concentration_camp’]Dachau[/URL].

    and this
    Franz was born on 14 July 1933 in [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Munich’]Munich[/URL], the son of [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Albrecht,_Duke_of_Bavaria’]Albrecht, Duke of Bavaria[/URL], and his [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Morganatic’]morganatic[/URL] wife, [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Countess_Maria_Draskovich_of_Trakostjan’]Countess Maria Draskovich of Trakostjan[/URL] of the [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/House_of_Dra%C5%A1kovi%C4%87′]House of Drašković[/URL], a Croatian noble family.

    [SIZE=7][B]Morganatic marriage[/B][/SIZE]
    Now rare, it is also known as a [B]left-handed marriage[/B] because in the wedding ceremony the groom held his bride’s hand with his left hand instead of his right.[URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Morganatic_marriage#cite_note-1′][1][/URL]

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 21543, member: 480″][B]Department of [/B][I][B][U][SIZE=7]Human Resources[/SIZE][/U][/B][/I][B] Development[/B][/QUOTE]
    An organisation run by Joanne Mennie. Where have I heard that name before?

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    [QUOTE=”jcorvec, post: 21618, member: 31″]Where? (I’m trying to follow but am having difficulty lol)[/QUOTE]

    Liechtenstein, a small European country which also has a king that still holds power.
    [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liechtenstein[/URL]
    Unfortunately it seems there is a bit of a problem with their religious demographics. Not a super problem yet but they need to take care of it. Hopefully those two things aren’t related (I mean the voting thing and the Muslims)

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    [SIZE=7][B]List of foundations established in Vaduz[/B][/SIZE]
    [LIST]
    [*]The [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Alexander_S._Onassis_Foundation’]Alexander S. Onassis Foundation[/URL] *1973
    [*]The International Lottery in Liechtenstein Foundation
    [*]The International Music and Art Foundation *1988
    [*]The [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Prince_of_Liechtenstein_Foundation’]Prince of Liechtenstein Foundation[/URL] *1970
    [*]The Marcala Foundation
    [*]The Thesaurus Islamicus Foundation
    [*]The [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/w/index.php?title=European_Centre_of_Austrian_Economics_Foundation&action=edit&redlink=1′]European Centre of Austrian Economics Foundation[/URL] *2004
    [*]The Rothschild-Crutchfield Foundation
    [/LIST]

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    [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Wittelsbach[/URL]

    [B]Titles[/B]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Emperor’]Holy Roman Emperor[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Romans’]King of the Romans[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Hungary’]King of Hungary[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Denmark’]King of Denmark[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Sweden’]King of Sweden[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Norway’]King of Norway[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Greece’]King of Greece[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Bavaria’]King of Bavaria[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Bavaria’]Duke of Bavaria[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elector_of_Bavaria’]Elector of Bavaria[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elector_Palatine’]Elector of the Palatinate[/URL]
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elector_of_Cologne’]Elector of Cologne[/URL]
    [B]Deposition[/B] 7 November 1918 >>>>>[B](WW1)
    Cadet branches[/B][URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Palatinate-Simmern’]Palatinate-Simmern[/URL],
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatinate-Sulzbach’]Palatinate-Sulzbach[/URL],
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Palatinate-Neumarkt’]Palatinate-Neumarkt[/URL],
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Palatinate-Zweibr%C3%BCcken’]Palatinate-Zweibrücken[/URL],
    [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Palatinate-Birkenfeld’]Palatinate-Birkenfeld[/URL]

    titles pass to sophie married to the pretenders first born son of the English Crown :unsure:
    and there son
    [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Joseph_Wenzel_of_Liechtenstein[/URL]

    He is the first [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobitism’]Jacobite[/URL] heir born in the [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles’]British Isles[/URL] since 1688 and will be, assuming his accession to the throne of Liechtenstein and upon the death of his mother, the first Jacobite heir since [URL=’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_V,_Duke_of_Modena’]Francis V, Duke of Modena[/URL] to become the head of state of another country

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    ww1 a continuation of the revolution wars of napoleon ?

    viva revolutionary france all hail the republic/democracy

    f

    i know its more complicated then that but makes one wonder

    and then you had the ushering in of communism across europe
    which then joined forces with global capitalism (WW2) england and usa france was in the process of turning commun

    and the nordic contries sweden,denmark and norway all stayed neutral as they where beholden to both england and the HRE

    funny thing when you read a few fascist books they where all open to the idea of a king from germany, italy and romainia with a high consul to the king
    the origin of fascist philosophy was france and then italy

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    Being related to all those titles isn’t surprising at all once you know about pedigree collapse and considering that marrying outside of nobility was frowned upon. It doesn’t require inbreeding either, though that did happen sometimes. All Europeans for example are descendants of Charlemagne for example.

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    correct
    im a bit of a history buff
    the church put in laws for no inbreeding
    not sure where the hapsburgs went wrong :p

    still not sure why they passed it onto her and not the other oldest male in the line though
    perhaps to consolidate power

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    Following the [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/First_World_War’]First World War[/URL], Albrecht’s grandfather King Ludwig was [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Abolished_monarchy’]deposed[/URL]. Albrecht and the family moved from Bavaria to the [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Tyrol_(state)’]Austrian Tyrol[/URL].[URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Albrecht,_Duke_of_Bavaria#cite_note-NYT-1′][1][/URL]
    [URL]https://infogalactic.com/info/Ludwig_III_of_Bavaria[/URL]
    Ludwig was born in [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Munich’]Munich[/URL], the eldest son of Prince [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Luitpold,_Prince_Regent_of_Bavaria’]Luitpold of Bavaria[/URL] and of his wife, [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Augusta,_Archduchess_of_Austria’]Archduchess Augusta of Austria[/URL] (daughter of [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Leopold_II,_Grand_Duke_of_Tuscany’]Grand Duke Leopold II of Tuscany[/URL]). He was a descendant of both [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Louis_XIV_of_France’]Louis XIV of France[/URL] and [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/William_the_Conqueror’]William the Conqueror[/URL]. Hailing from [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Florence’]Florence[/URL], Augusta always spoke in Italian to her four children. Ludwig was named after his grandfather, King [URL=’https://infogalactic.com/info/Ludwig_I,_King_of_Bavaria’]Ludwig I of Bavaria[/URL].

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    didnt they lock up the son of louis in a dungeon after the revolution (intrigue where they rescued him)
    and the bolshiviks murdered the entire family of the czar(again some intrigue with one escaping)

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    coming down on social media providers for false information. What about their true crimes
    [MEDIA=youtube]Qxz-vmbFXd4[/MEDIA]

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    [QUOTE=”arla7247, post: 22212, member: 122″]coming down on social media providers for false information. What about their true crimes
    [MEDIA=youtube]Qxz-vmbFXd4[/MEDIA][/QUOTE]
    Yeah, the BBC is biased like CBC…

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    [QUOTE=”arla7247, post: 22212, member: 122″]coming down on social media providers for false information. What about their true crimes
    [MEDIA=youtube]Qxz-vmbFXd4[/MEDIA][/QUOTE]
    [ATTACH]1474[/ATTACH]

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