Jagmeet Singh – “No More Fossil Fuels” & Mark Norman & Hate Speech? & More!

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    I’m back, sorta. Still super busy, but will be popping in when I can. BTW it was great to meet you at the Political Correctness round table in Toronto a couple weeks ago, [USER=1]@CanadaPoli-Admin[/USER]. Shame you couldn’t stick around for the PPC pub night afterwards.

    Now, here is what Jagmeet Singh does not understand about renewables. They do not provide steady energy, thus requiring fossil fuels to supplement them, they destroy the environment in the name of protecting the climate, and they are not now, will be for a long time, either cost of energy effective.

    This Ted Talk by Michael Shellenberger lays out many of the issues with attempting what Jagmeet Singh is proposing. It is time to wake everyone up to the environmental dangers of renewable energy.

    [MEDIA=youtube]N-yALPEpV4w[/MEDIA]

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    Jagmeet Sigh just looks more stupid each time he speaks. :censored:

    I used be 100% for wind farms and wind generators. It all started when I was about 10 with a science project after I adapted my bicycle light generator with a propeller.

    A few years back while motorcycling through parts of California and Nevada I was shocked to see abandoned wind farms or “renewable energy”. It looked like a scene from an end of the world movie. Really creepy. Why were they abandoned? …..money I’m sure. I suspect the companies made their money and spent all the government grants. Never though about maintenance and simply walked away. Now the government is stuck and they most likely have no money to clean up the mess. Wind farms are politically wonderful but, not economically viable. This Ted Talk is well done.

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    That Ted Talk was just the tip of the iceburg. Has anyone here (other than me) actually been to a lithium mine? For Jagmeet Singh’s plan to work, battery production must increase dramatically. But at what cost?

    [URL]https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium-batteries-environment-impact[/URL]

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    “Green” energy is stupid. It’s not good for the environment and that’s not even talking about the stupid carbon dioxide stuff. It’s also more expensive. All in all nothing good.

    Also hate speech is bad, it’s just another weapon used against our people. It’s always the foreigners who benefit from it, not us.

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    I know solar panels on a roof are not called, perhaps, renewable energy…. but they would be an alternative to oil furnaces… Well, I read a few years ago that govt would like homeowners to pay to have solar roof panels installed. However, no one around here could ever afford $40 000 to have it done. Could govt put some money towards lowering the cost? With no foreign investment and no jobs, everyone can do this, right? I have excellent credit and I could charge it but I don’t have enough income to make minimum payments for that.
    Can Singh tell us examples of what is better to do to replace oil and gas? Would he say he’ll get contractors to install solar panels so people can consider them? Liberals want to help with changing to electric cars, offering to pay $5000 out of a $40000 price. If a person still has to finance $35000 for a car, then thousands more for solar panels, etc, who can do this?
    We have some wind farm things here and it’s the US who owns them and uses the energy produced by them. It’s not even for Canadians!

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    Not sure where you live jcorvec but we did have a solor panel grant here in Ontario. My neighbor has one. Hasn’t had it a year yet nor have I asked how much he gets back but I will soon. I can’t remember all the details but you could buy it outright and reap all the money you get back or dont pay anything and get a percentage back. I do know he went for the percentage one.

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    The reason why the government pays people to have them is simply to advance their own agenda. Solar panels have a lifespan, after which they need to be disposed of and they are toxic so it’s expensive. The energy that one gets from it isn’t that good either and your house insurance is going to go up due to increased risk of house fire due to said solar panels.

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    [QUOTE=”Cdnguy, post: 12738, member: 5″]i just love the fact they put them on the side that doesnt get much if any sun.[/QUOTE]

    Isn’t putting them inside a shed or the basement the ideal spot?

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    [QUOTE=”joe muferaw, post: 12716, member: 374″]nikola tesla was right about alot
    just saying[/QUOTE]
    He most certainly was.

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    [QUOTE=”jcorvec, post: 12726, member: 31″]I know solar panels on a roof are not called, perhaps, renewable energy…. but they would be an alternative to oil furnaces… Well, I read a few years ago that govt would like homeowners to pay to have solar roof panels installed. However, no one around here could ever afford $40 000 to have it done. Could govt put some money towards lowering the cost? With no foreign investment and no jobs, everyone can do this, right? I have excellent credit and I could charge it but I don’t have enough income to make minimum payments for that.
    Can Singh tell us examples of what is better to do to replace oil and gas? Would he say he’ll get contractors to install solar panels so people can consider them? Liberals want to help with changing to electric cars, offering to pay $5000 out of a $40000 price. If a person still has to finance $35000 for a car, then thousands more for solar panels, etc, who can do this?
    We have some wind farm things here and it’s the US who owns them and uses the energy produced by them. It’s not even for Canadians![/QUOTE]

    Solar is not particularly effective during a Canadian winter, unfortunately. Too much snow on roofs.

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    [QUOTE=”Cdnguy, post: 12740, member: 5″]Perhaps. That’s why I’m curious to how much money he gets.[/QUOTE]
    Yes, I am curious and I do not plan to have any here. On the comments section in the survey I said most people can’t afford it, period. Canadapoli just posted a video about the batteries and solar-power stuff. I will be listening closely later….. The refugees and ‘immigrants’ here will NOT BE all getting a bunch of solar panels, etc for their houses – i’m sure. They are all in hotels and apartments anyway. I had never imagined about how you’d have to keep snow off the roof – here by February we have 100cm on the ground, roofs. So no one will be doing this. You guys know so much and it’s helpful to know what you all know. I never knew about how they don’t last, and any fees for disposal. Cute, cute, cute. There are a lot of US being sold down the river….we will not even have enough caves to hide in or enough firewood to make a fire in the woods when we are driven into the woods.
    Will govt pay for US to be transported to an empty country in Africa or the Middle East after all the ‘migrants’are in OUR countries, then?

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    [QUOTE=”Cdnguy, post: 12734, member: 5″]Not sure where you live jcorvec but we did have a solor panel grant here in Ontario. My neighbor has one. Hasn’t had it a year yet nor have I asked how much he gets back but I will soon. I can’t remember all the details but you could buy it outright and reap all the money you get back or dont pay anything and get a percentage back. I do know he went for the percentage one.[/QUOTE]
    Maybe govt has enough sense to not bother doing it in NB. I’m surprised.

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    [QUOTE=”Cdnguy, post: 12777, member: 5″]Perhaps. We got rid of it awhile ago tho.[/QUOTE]
    I am trying to understand the new ideas being presented by the parties about climate change now. Aren’t they all over the board? I don’t know which of them to go with – I wish they could use logic and proper sense. Bernier is sensible at least.

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    [SIZE=7][B]After 5 years, Medicine Hat powers down $12M solar thermal power plant[/B][/SIZE]

    [URL]https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/solar-thermal-power-plant-mothballed-medicine-hat-1.5137428[/URL]

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 12851, member: 480″]Wind can work as a backup/redundancy imo. The thing is they are trying to monetize (as in monthly bill payments/subscriptions/payout programs) “renewable” energy.

    Sure to monetize it’s fine to sell a windmill at the point of sale, but that’s where any sort of monetization should end. The problem is it doesn’t work for mass scales.

    I also like windmill and solar. If individuals had their own windmill, small ones, and solar panels on their property it should only make energy needs less reliant on huge wasteful polluting energy producing systems. That doesn’t mean we will end up shutting down all the coal and oil and nuclear plants etc, but it means we will need less inputs.

    But I agree with you, those giant eyesores aren’t helping anyone.

    Individual homes however, would be great. But it should be a personal choice for one, and the Government/Energy Companies shouldn’t be able to demand that you feed your excess back into the grid. It’s not their house or land, they should fuck off, let people do what they will with their own things.

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    Sorta like not intruding into peoples “smart phones” that they purchased for way too much money. Not that I have one or got any Amber Alerts.

    [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation[/URL]

    [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron[/URL]

    [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra[/URL]

    But the self righteous indignation of all those who think that Every Canadian should accept being woken up in the middle of the night on a piece of hardware they purchased, is a joke. – In fact it’s more proof the mob mentality and 1984 or Sodom and Gommorah are on the horizon for all of us.

    Hey you don’t want to have sex with the whole Village, men and women all, well too bad for you! You’re a hater otherwise! “You don’t care about people! You’re a terrible human being!” (This is PURE COMMUNISTIC INFLUENCE)

    Fuck off is what I say to that.

    And I don’t even have one of those Sheeple Phones.[/QUOTE]

    Solar power and wind power aren’t good. They transmit the power through the ground with boxy wave not a sine wave, which disturbs the animals in the area and makes them flee. Wind also kills birds. Both are incredibly inefficient especially when compared to the cost, though solar is more so that way. Solar also has a lifespan and after that it’s expensive to get rid of the toxic material.

    So there is no good reason to get them.
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    [*]They aren’t actually environmentally friendly
    [*]They are insanely expensive
    [*]They don’t produce much power at all
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    There is no upside to them. Nuclear power is by far the best by every metric. Though even damns are better on every metric and they are inferior to nuclear.

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    [QUOTE=”Classical Conservative, post: 12871, member: 189″]There is no upside to them. Nuclear power is by far the best by every metric. Though even damns are better on every metric and they are inferior to nuclear.[/QUOTE]
    I agree. Nuclear Energy is by far the most economic. Canada has (or had) cutting edge power generation at one time.

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    [QUOTE=”joe muferaw, post: 12861, member: 374″][SIZE=7][B]After 5 years, Medicine Hat powers down $12M solar thermal power plant[/B][/SIZE]

    [URL]https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/solar-thermal-power-plant-mothballed-medicine-hat-1.5137428[/URL][/QUOTE]
    I’m surprised Medicine Hat went that route. They are a natural gas ground zero. I would have gone to NG run generators in that location provided MH had no choice but to generate their own power. Here in Ontario I see quite a few residential type solar set ups. Most look abandoned. From what little I know about solar the silicon breaks down over time and efficiency dramatical deteriorates. It also take a considerable amount of power and resources to manufacture solar panels.

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    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 12877, member: 480″]I mean small windmills like 1 or 2 kw. Maybe between 1-5 kw for an average household. There are different form factors for them. Wind has come a long way I think. Just needs to be implemented the right way.[/QUOTE]

    Not environmentally friendly and expensive.

    [QUOTE=”Cassius_Chaerea, post: 12877, member: 480″]I’m also not big on Nuclear energy haha. Safe as it can be….. I would prefer a Nuclear free world. But that won’t happen in my lifetime.[/QUOTE]

    Why? The only reason to get rid of nuclear would be for something better, which would be a superior form of nuclear, fusion as opposed to fission. Why would you want to get rid of the cleanest and cheapest form of energy in favor of one that’s expensive and dangerous for the environment, and with the way you would want it would be extremely disastrous for the environment.

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    [QUOTE=”AV8TOR, post: 12879, member: 33″]I agree. Nuclear Energy is by far the most economic. Canada has (or had) cutting edge power generation at one time.[/QUOTE]

    Still do I believe. We have nuclear reactors that are not found elsewhere as far as I know.

    [QUOTE=”AV8TOR, post: 12880, member: 33″]solar the silicon breaks down over time and efficiency dramatical deteriorates[/QUOTE]

    It only starts at about 10% efficiency too. The government will give you money that they took from you in order for you to get those but then you’ll have to pay to take care of them when they expire.

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    [QUOTE=”Classical Conservative, post: 12883, member: 189″]The government will give you money that they took from you[/QUOTE]
    LOL sounds like the carbon tax rebate.

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